kids say the garsh-darndest things

7/22/07

A couple of videos to share with you today, and YES, they’re all about our kids, but I can’t be a krusty kurmudgeon every day, so DEAL!

First off, my brother Sean taught himself iMovie on the Mac and made this lovely little piece for Jordana’s birthday. As an editor, he really gets into a groove near the end, where you can cue most of my family welling with tears:

As for the Lulubeans, she (like most of us) has a deep affection for Babar, king of the elephants. One afternoon, Tessa began the first word of the book, and to our astonishment, Lucy read the rest of Page 1 aloud. I asked her to do it again last night, and even more stunningly, she complied. Not bad for a 27-month-old! Apparently I could read when I was three (thus I skipped kindergarten and slipped promptly into Hell) but with recitations like this, she’s on par to kick my ass:

I can lose 20 lbs and get down to my high school weight and still have a frickin’ double chin – YUK

0 thoughts on “kids say the garsh-darndest things

  1. Neva

    Ian,
    Please ignore mean comments from people who enjoy writing mean things on blogs about other people’s children. Those people lose contact with family members because they have no sense of how to treat other people.

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  2. Neva

    And, by the way, the videos are super cute and my daughter began reading just that way and now is reading Harry Potter at age 6, so it may not be “reading” in the most specific sense but it is the very first step.

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  3. Reader

    Anyway…
    I wonder if kids still skip grades these days. Anyone know? It seems better for them to not be in such a rush. I know some kids may be so smart that they have to skip grades, but it seems like if there is a choice, they should just take it easy. I dunno.

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  4. Reader

    Oops, sorry, the ‘anyway’ was meant to ignore the first comment, not neva…i didn’t see your post before i posted. I didn’t mean to be rude.

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  5. Neva

    Probably better to ignore my comment too as I couldn’t help myself. Not a good idea to be negative back I suppose. Sorry.

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  6. Ian

    LS, I said “with recitations like this”. I don’t think any parent would confuse it with “reading”. I merely thought it was a good start.
    Neva, you can always say whatever you want, m’dear. You’re right, though, it’s weird getting feedback on precious little moments like this, it makes you not want to share this stuff with anybody but immediate family…

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  7. LFMD

    Ian – don’t you dare withhold these Cutie Cutiekin Cousin movies from me. Barnaby and Lucy are so cute . . . they make me smile!
    Down to your high school weight? Damn! Good work.

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  8. scruggs

    Our son has the Babar World Tour book. Really cute. Si Mangia Bene!
    From my limited experience, no one seems to be skipping grades anymore. The big phenomenon is holding back your kid. Don’t want him being the youngest in the class…the shortest…wanting him to be the oldest so he can be the leader…wanting him to have another year to help him in sports later…etc. Observed this mindset in Atlanta and now in Charlotte. I have friends with valid reasons for holding their kids back, but some of them are a little much.

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  9. josie

    Lucy should be very proud!!
    As for holding back, they call it “the gift of time,” and it’s purpose is to allow kids the time needed to adapt socially and developmentally to the demands of schooling. There is less emphasis on IQ and book smarts, but this comes into play at some degree.
    It’s a great gift for kids who are behind the curve in several areas (motor, speech, cognitive, etc), so they don’t feel like they cant keep up or feel like they have to struggle to do something that seems to be effortless to their peers. Proponents suggest that the “hold back” happens early on in the school years to avoid smashing the fragile self-esteem of adolescents (i.e. preferably before 1st or 2nd grade). After, you may do more harm than good.
    Interestingly, since boys happen to develop “slower” than girls, it is most often recommended for the boys. I wonder if proud parents are putting the sports slant on it, in order to validate their decision without denigrating their child’s abilities?
    There was a story on this in the NY Times Magazine a few months back, but honestly I was disappointed in the point of view they adopted.
    See the Gesell Institute for Human Development http://www.gesellinstitute.org/ I saw a speaker for this organization and I am now a proponent of the “gift of time.”

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  10. Rebecca

    Two cute kids! Thanks for sharing. Lucy’s memorization of the book is impressive for her age. My oldest did that, and so when it was time for him to really learn to read, sometimes it was hard to tell if he was really reading, or just reciting what he had memorized.
    I agree with Scruggs, I really don’t see any skipping of grades anymore, but plenty of holding back kids. There’s a lot of interest in this topic, the New York Times ran a article in June that really got around. It is here if anyone is interested:
    http://www.nytimes. com/2007/ 06/03/magazine/ 03kindergarten- t.html?
    Okay, I just checked my link, and it doesn’t seem to be working. Now you have to buy the archived article. Sorry.
    Here is the place to do that:
    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60813FD3F540C708CDDAF0894DF404482
    If you have a Ber baby (child born in September, October, November or December) it’s really worth reading. I found the long term studies to be especially interesting because they showed that there is a long term positive effect for kids to be older.

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  11. kjf

    what lucy is doing is a fundamental building block to learning to read as well as plenty of other developmental goodies. lucy is so adorable as is barnaby.

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  12. LFMD

    Oh, I forgot to tell you about my observations: no one seems to be skipping grades, but there is a lot of holding back. Holding back at the request of schools — especially among boys.
    This is a whole other can of worms, but the scuttlebut among my friends is how school systems treat boys and girls differently. Seems as though every parent of a boy is being asked to put her son in pre-K, or pre-1st grade, and MANY of the boys I know are being labeled ADHD by the schools — in kindergarten! Seems as though there is no tolerance for what was once considered “typical boy behavior.” Your son fidgets in class? Is a bit disruptive? Doesn’t participate in circle time? Don’t be surprised if the school (especially private schools) recommend that your child be evaluated for ADHD, be put on Prozac or Ritalin, or held back. The schools get very pushy about this, and so many of my friends feel as though they are immediately put on the defensive, making their sons’ academic beginnings very uncomfortable. 6 year olds on Prozac? I am all for Prozac, but I am an adult. I think it is terrible! Anyone else notice this phenomenon?
    That said, I must go. My boyfriend Anderson is grilling the candidates. I keep waiting to see Ian’s youtube question being broadcast. . .

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  13. Rebecca

    Josie, I just read the Gesell Institute information that you linked and it was interesting. The developmental age versus chronological age is so important. My daughter will be 6 in September and is entering Kindergarten this fall. So yes, we held her back or gave her the gift of time as you say. It was a huge decision that concerned me for months, but after consulting with the school system, a psychologist (who explained the developmental age issue to me) and my daughter’s preschool, it was the right decision for her. She simply wasn’t ready for kindergarten when she was still 4 years old!
    Sarah attended a pre-K program 5 days a week this year. Of the 15 kids, there were 9 boys and 6 girls. There was only 1 boy that I thought was held back for sports purposes. He was really big, had a June birthday, and a professional baseball player for a Father. Maybe I was jaded by that last fact, but he seemed light years ahead of many of the other kids.
    And yes, I’ve also had to deal with the “your son is ADD” issue with my 8 year old. We’re still wrestling with that one. Today, that kid finished the 7th Harry Potter book.

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  14. Mom

    Ian was reading at about a fourth grade level when I took him to register him for kindergarten. Some teacher at the school who had “heard about this wunderkind” took him off to read to her, and they came back to tell me that they thought he really should go straight to first grade.
    All I can say is, I have miserably regretted the decision to let them put him ahead. He was barely five years old, some of his classmates were seven, and Ian was not tall for his age. He would have been SO much better off with kids his own age. I’d never kick a kid ahead, never. Michelle came back to the U.S. from England reading at an advanced level, and the decision was to let her take language arts with the grade level ahead, and everything else with her age-mates. That worked OK, but even that seems, in retrospect, kind of silly.
    I applaud the parents who give their kids MORE time to develop rather than push them ahead. If I had it to do over…

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  15. eric g.

    I agree with Ian’s mom. Although I have no children, I have never met a child who skipped even one grade who felt good about it later in life. I did the kind of hybrid that Michelle did, which was better, but still made me feel different when I went into the corner of the room and did the next grade’s reading.

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  16. Greg T

    I skipped 4th because I was *bored* (hello, ADD anyone?) in the 3rd grade and being disruptive.
    I passed, but repeated anyway, the 7th in an attempt to undo the harm.
    Neither experiment was successful. I think they both just served to reinforce my native sense of isolation and insecurity.
    My strongest sense from that age is constantly being told I was smarter than everyone else. I know my father meant it as a good thing, but it just reinforced the idea that I was some sort of freak and didn’t fit in. I’ve come to grips with the idea that I am altogether very average in many ways, including intelligence, but I still deal today with the aftermath of growing up feeling like a freak.
    My wife and I both have been told we were early readers, etc… but our approach has been to allow Quinn (our son, not the fantastic author of the QCReport) to take things at his own pace and not push him. He’s almost to Kindergarden (yikes!) and not reading which kinda freaks me out a little, but if he’s comfortable in our support and is able to dodge the insecurities that plague(d) me then it’ll all be worthwhile.

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  17. Why?

    Not to be too catty (I cant help it) but the first commenter’s blog admits in her first entry that “I live in Chapel Hill, NC. But I am a Duke fan.”
    Draw your own conclusions…

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